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Poster: Cliff Hucker Date: Mar 13, 2009 6:26am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Who knows 4/15/70?

I have not been able to stop listening to this Winterland gem for the past several days. This is a thrill a minute show, but the precussion driven Jam sandwiched between the two(2) drum breaks of this Cryptical/Other One suite percolates like a fine pot of Blue Mountain.

Is 1970 THE year for high intensity free-form jamming? Who knows what happened to the China/Rider?

Cold Rain & Snow, Mama Tried, It's A Man's World, Candyman, Hard To Handle, Cryptical Envelopment -> Drums -> Jam -> Drums -> The Other One -> Cryptical Envelopment -> Dire Wolf, Dancin' In The Streets, Turn On Your Lovelight -> Not Fade Away -> Turn On Your Lovelight

http://www.archive.org/details/gd70-04-15.sbd.kaplan.14354.sbeok.shnf

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Poster: cosmic charlie dupree Date: Mar 13, 2009 9:40am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who knows 4/15/70?

Cliff - I think you or elb brought this show to my attention a month or so ago, which I should thank you for. In particular, Candyman floored me - sounds like perfection to me, and vocally they are on top of their game.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Mar 14, 2009 7:22am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who knows 4/15/70?

Right; it's an odd set list somehow for me, and I don't reach for it often, typically, but recall what you say being the case.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 13, 2009 6:51am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who knows 4/15/70?

Isn't this the run where Miles Davis opened for the Dead? I have listened to Miles performance from 4-9-70 and might suggest that some cross-pollination might explain some of that jamming you mention.

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Poster: Det. Harry Ratcock Date: Mar 13, 2009 7:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who knows 4/15/70?

Tt was the china white in them days I believe.

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Poster: Jim F Date: Mar 13, 2009 12:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who knows 4/15/70?

4/15 is Winterland, the Miles Davis run was at the Fillmore West. I've always wondered what exists from the list given for 4/10/70, I've always suspected it is the holy grail of Alligator>Cautions (merely because it seems to be the only one listed anywhere that does not circulate).


Band Grateful Dead
Venue Fillmore West
Location San Francisco, CA
Date 4/10/70 - Friday posters tickets, passes & laminates
Comments DeadBase IX gives this list: [electric] Cold Rain And Snow; New Speedway Boogie; Mama Tried; China Cat Sunflower > I Know You Rider; Hard To Handle; Casey Jones; [acoustic] Friend Of The Devil; Deep Elem Blues; Candyman; Wake Up Little Susie > Black Peter; Uncle John's Band; [electric] It's A Man's, Man's, Man's World; Dancin In The Street; High Time; Alligator > Caution > And We Bid You Good Night. Also on the bill were Miles Davis Quintet with Airto Moreira, Stone The Crows, and Clouds.
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Poster: light into ashes Date: Mar 13, 2009 7:10pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who knows 4/15/70?

While Miles didn't open for this particular show, it comes right after that Fillmore run, and I think they were clearly inspired by him to put some more improvisational sparkle in their shows.
While the 4/9 show isn't incredibly remarkable, on 4/12 you can tell they are really in the zone and pouring out some fantastic jams. Perhaps by then they'd gotten over their embarrassment at following Miles!
So it's a huge shame that a bunch of reels for the Fillmore shows went missing. I wish the audience taper on 4/9 had at least gone back the next nights! We can only sigh in sadness about 4/10 - I also sigh about 4/11, a Dark Star show in which only the (least interesting) last half-hour of the show survives.

By the way - as far as 4/10 having the only uncirculating Alligator - setlists.net claims this setlist for 9/25/70 Pasadena:

Set 1:
Casey Jones
Me And My Uncle
I'm A King Bee
Cryptical Envelopment
Drums
The Other One
Cryptical Envelopment
High Time

Set 2:
Dark Star
Cosmic Charlie
Alligator
Drums
Turn On Your Lovelight
Morning Dew

Encore:
And We Bid You Goodnight

Setlists.net is not always accurate - assuming this was real, it's hard to say if this was a full-fledged Alligator, or if it just went Alligator song>drums>Lovelight with no jam, which they also did sometimes. But there's another lost Dark Star to sigh over, too.... (I wonder if it went Dark Star>Cosmic Charlie, like on 5/30/69?)

This post was modified by light into ashes on 2009-03-14 02:10:04

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Mar 13, 2009 12:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Who knows 4/15/70?

Thanks you are correct the run with Miles was from 4-9 through 4-12.